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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

This needed to be said, and you are the man to say it. I was not a follower of TPUSA but did know who Charlie Kirk was and how he used his talents and gifts to educate young men on college campuses. I was not familiar with the organization, how it was run, or Erika. I only heard Charlie speak a couple times at C-PAC.

I did not know until after his death that he had begun keeping the Sabbath, the Biblically commanded Sabbath. I gained much respect for him when I learned that. He was a man who had principles and was willing to stand by them.

I have watched the events of the last three months unfold from a distance, not holding any particular opinion, and listening to different views. I have come to my own beliefs. This current AMFEST is a disgrace. EK is a disgrace and an embarrassment. I do not trust her one iota. She has sold out for money and fame. She is being used by dark forces, as is TPUSA.

That being said, I totally agree with your four goals, four fundamental political aims. I hope that the base CK created in his generation will be on board for those and vote accordingly.

You said:

"I am my own man, and I have my own opinions and arguments". I respect that. Thank you Seth.

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Dean R Marshall's avatar

This is the first article where a wish came for some way to hit "like" many times instead of once only.

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jwemd's avatar

Directly over target captn

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Nicholas St Jon (stnick007)'s avatar

Exactly! It’s like conservatives have a disdain for collaboration and coalition building. If we spent as much time, energy and money collaborating as we do tearing each other down, there’s hardly a political race we couldn’t win.

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Ask better questions's avatar

Right?! is that our fierce independence and an obsession with “right” and “true”. I am fascinated by the inability to see the big picture. That what we are preserving is constitutional freedom.

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Kristine Christlieb's avatar

I really applaud what you've written, probably because I agree with most of it. What has split the movement is whether to trust law enforcement to carry out an investigation of Kirk's assassination. I don't trust our justice system anymore, and I'm skeptical of people who do.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Thank you for bringing that up. IMO, at this point we are being totally gaslit. The real investigations are being done by independent folks who want the truth. I personally avoided any speculation for weeks, and accepted the "official narrative". Only the last week have I allowed myself to hear others discuss the events and reach disturbing conclusions.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

There's a lot of discussion going on in X. I haven't followed it very closely, as I've decided to concentrate on the Butler, PA assassination attempt.

I could more or less keep up with the acoustics analysis of the Butler attempt, but without putting the time in to know the names of all the videos and understand the layout of the area intimately, a lot of what they are saying goes over my head.

I do understand Chris Martenson's (Peak Prosperity) excellent and accessible analysis. If the bullet was coming at a 9% downward angle, it would have made an exit wound in the Mr. Kirk's neck. He even did 55 tests with pork roasts and different types of 30.06 bullets.

On the other hand, why wouldn't Tyler Robinson's attorneys be using some of the problems with the physical evidence as a defense?

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Dave Campbell's avatar

yes, it is shameful how the right has devolved since Charlie's assassination. I never imagined how fragile the unity was. Too many voices competing to be heard without regard for bringing people together to combat the rot of the left. It's starts with the man at the top, Mr. Trump. Constantly bashing his many enemies, real and perceived, hurts us all.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

It was too bad he lashed out publicly at MT Greene and Thomas Massie. The Republicans need to have some room in congress for people that don't vote in lockstep.

In Mr. Trump's defense, he's going through far more stress than any of us can imagine. Also, he supposedly only sleeps 4 hours a night, which is almost certainly not as much sleep as he should get.

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Peter Wiggin's avatar

Honestly not sure how being America First requires a Shapiro stamp of approval?

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Capt. Seth Keshel's avatar

It doesn’t and I’ve argued he’s the worst of the worst.

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Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

Especially since he is explicitly Israel First.

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Mickey Splaine's avatar

Captain for me it's been totally unwatchable. However, your political positions as stated form the four legs of a very sturdy America First stool. If the conservatives can't agree on that we have a problem...

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Deb Nance's avatar

While there are differences among those under the big tent, Trump unites us all. I would be surprised if the mid terms don't go Trump's way.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Good point, Trump is a uniter, not a divider, and he knows more than most think he does.

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Deb Nance's avatar

He's seen all of the classified documents. He knows it all. Not to mention he's the Commander in Chief of the military and they also have it all. Not to mention being undercover in the democrat party and Hollywood. My money is on Trump.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

100%

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VikingMom's avatar

Absolutely spot on!! The backstabbing and posturing that has been going on these past three months would have horrified and infuriated Charlie Kirk, who spent more than a decade trying to get people to talk TO each other instead of yelling AT each other! But Charlie, like Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart before him, was both intellectually gifted and infinitely curious, but also had a side of true humility as well!

Shapiro started out strong decades ago but has turned into an arrogant "little" man with a massive ego and an obsession with all things Israel (just like Mark Levin, who has now become a caricature of his former self and simply can't stop yelling at everyone)!

Tucker Carlson, who always seemed like a nice, earnest young man, who knew he wasn't the brightest kid in the class, is now in the midst of a full blown mid life crisis and can't stop pontificating on complex subjects that he clearly doesn't always understand!

Candace Owens flamed out early but, buoyed by her husband's billions, is now delving into truly crazy ideas, some of which have enough truth in them to make them worth discussing, but not in the haphazard, conspiratorial ramblings of a troubled young woman who needs to just calm down!

And trying to hold it all together is Erika Kirk, who loved her husband, but simply does not possess either his innate ability to grasp complex subjects nor his lighthearted approachability to large groups of diverse people. She comes across as a beauty queen who is used to "performing" and "winning" and the more time she spends in the public arena, the less people feel sympathy for her. She may have the brains to "run" TPUSA but she does not have the personality to be the public face of it and if the inner circle is unable to explain that to her soon, I fear the whole thing will collapse.

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Kristine Christlieb's avatar

Totally disagree. Kirk was being bullied by Jewish donors. That's just a fact. Kirk's organization was in trouble financially. Kirk had called for an audit -- where was the money going? Because of the assassination and the flood of sympathy money, the organization has temporarily dodged that bullet, but the long-term outlook for TPUSA is not good. To name Erika Kirk as successor feels very off to me. I would bet you money there was no official succession document or official statement from Kirk naming Erika as successor. If there is, TPUSA's board has never shared it. They have simply claimed that was Charlie's plan. I guess we shall see how "crazy" Candace Owens is. I'm troubled that the TPUSA staff isn't more aggressive in looking for helpful information. For example, if my husband had been assassinated and I had his phone, I would be scouring every data byte of that phone for clues and info. No one, not even Erika, had carefully examined the messaging platforms on his phone. And you are calling Candace "crazy?"

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VikingMom's avatar

I do not disagree that Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson may be raising legitimate questions. My frustration is that the way they are going about it is divisive and unhelpful. Let Shapiro and Levin rant - it shows their character and lack of coherent arguments, IMHO! But, if everyone involved starts acting like they are in a Junior High food fight, then no one takes anything they are saying seriously and that was exactly the opposite of how Charlie Kirk behaved!

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Anna's avatar

Well written, I agree completely! Thank you!

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HARRY REYNOLDS's avatar

Well said sir.

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Jay McIntyre's avatar

I know you have more immediate concerns. But damnit, I wish *you* could be President down the line.

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American Original's avatar

This is exactly what I thought after watching the feuding speakers. I felt embarrassed for them. They're putting their own egos over the mission. They have the right to say whatever they want and they all have their own platforms to do so. To choose this particular event to act like battling 14 yr old girls is shameful.

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James Arthur's avatar

I’ve followed you around for a long time, Seth. This is why.

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Peter Martin's avatar

You have responded the best you can. The answers are not on social media. We’re fighting evil forces that have existed since… so, the Lord sent Jesus to change an eye for an eye to love your neighbor. Just do that. Seth, you rock. You are being prayed for.

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